Total Power Exchange, slave training, personal & real property
August 22, 2012 in B.E.S.T. slave training - General by Cuffsmaster
One of the biggest controversial issues of B.D.S.M. consensual slavery is a Master taking ownership of a slave’s personal & real property when she accepts slavery. It is part of Total Power Exchange & B.E.S.T. slave Training. Much is made of the term Total Power Exchange
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(TPE) in the BDSM lifestyle and slave training. Wikipedia says TPE is “.… willingly hands over personal autonomy to another .… Addressing another person as “master” or “mistress” for a ten-minute scene to a witnessed, formal collaring with a lifelong agreement which micro-manages the submissive’s life.”
B.E.S.T. slave Training is not just about submission for scene play or a part-time exchange. B.E.S,T, slave Training is about training a girl’s body, mind, soul, spirit and heart for long –term service as her Master’s slave. she becomes your property. That is slavery. Words have meaning. It may mean the slave trainee must surrender control of assets to her master.
B.E.S.T. slave training can incorporate bondage, hypnotic slave training, rituals, voice training, protocols, and rules in the process of striping her personal powers away from her. Yes, bondage, protocols and rituals can and should be fun but they can have a deeper meaning and use during training.
Surrender control of personal and real property as a slave.
Giving a Master control of her assets and the accumulations of your life’s work may be required. You don’t find this subject discussed but it is a real part of negations in a Master/slave relationship. it is an important topic and a prospective slave needs to understand and be prepared to accept it.
The truth is that if you are going to be a slave then your master will assume control and responsibility for all of your being and all you own. This is a huge step and a huge loss of freedom for a slave trainee. This is often the hardest step for a slave to take.
Of course, there are a few notable exceptions to the rule of total surrender of assets. As a general rule intangible assets can’t be surrendered. The most notable are professional assets such as a medical, legal or some other professional practices that are based strictly on education and State licensing. You can’t own a slave’s license to practice medical or her knowledge to teach mathematics in college. You may choose where she practices her profession but not “the” professional intangible asset. In short owning a lawyer as a slave does not make you a lawyer LOL
Talking ownership of a slave in the B.D.S.M. lifestyle
When a Master takes ownership of real and personal assets upon collaring a slave he must also be willing to accept the large responsibilities and even debt payment plans. Yes, if a master assume responsibility for all the assets he also assume responsibility for the slave’s liabilities and headaches of ownership. If you are not able to manage the assets and liabilities then be truthful to yourself and decline ownership or get training. You are asking the slave to take a big step of releasing control and she should expect you to have the ability to handle the control.
Being a slave or the owner of a slave is not a game. It usually involves the slave’s surrender of freedoms to her master including real and personal assets. Slavery and training a slave is not a fantasy game played when you wish then you go back to your regular life. It is real and long-term.
i understand, appreciate and value the intention of a Master needing to be in control of a slave’s financial status. i understand and appreciate the need for a slave to have total trust in her Master. i must admit that after a lifetime of working and accumulating, it would be difficult, for me, to relinquish real assets. i am fully aware of the depth of the meaning of that conscious choice. Were i younger and not yet have had the opportunity or the ability to prepare for my own retirement, for my own eventual nursing home needs, that would be one thing. However, for an “older” slave to surrender a lifetime of accumulated of real assets,.… hard, very hard indeed,.….
To release one’s entire retirement accumulation would be very difficult. i could most certainly turn over current earnings or income. Not an issue. my Master would have the benefit of the current earnings those real asset might provide. A very interesting topic to process through. Thank You for the post, Sir.
Tally, I am glad you brought up retirement for a slave. I was going to discuss it but overlooked it. I want to discuss two somewhat interrelated topics. One is a horror story and the other is a Master’s moral obligation if he accepts her slavery and expects to own her long-term.
If you remember the John Edward Robinson (slavemaster) case you may know where I am going. For those that don’t remember he is a convicted serial killer, kidnapper,and embezzler. His trial was in Kansas for the murder of three woman. However he killed several others. Even sold one of the murdered woman’s baby after he killed her. It is clear that his murders were for his financial gain.
He contacted woman about slave training and preyed on them.
I have some knowledge of a woman that he embezzled out of over $200.000 in retirement funds shortly before his arrest for the above stated murders. I am positive she was to be his next victim. An interesting side note is that she started talking to him on a Christian BDSM website or group on the internet, I don’t remember which for this was about 12 years ago.
So my point is that even with my believe that a slave must give her assets to her master there is a huge risk. You are relying on the honesty of your master and his willingness to plan your future if he should die before you. Owning a slave is about whole life planning and management. You plan for both living and retiring together and even death. (not a usual subject for a bdsm slave training website)
I agree with you that retirement should be protected because it is “taking care of your property”. I can’t see cashing out a slave’s retirement for a master’s personal use without very good cause which would be limited to only a few things (the reasons for withdrawal are almost non-existent).
Robinson, a natural con artist, convinced the one girl I knew that she should invest her retirement into some con-game retirement plan he devised. Of course she lost all her money but thank goodness she is alive today. I do think she has left the lifestyle however. Who would blame her because she ended up having to testify at his very public trial, got her name in the Chattanooga paper where she lived at the time and on and on and on. I ended up being an advisor and friend during part of this ordeal. However I have not seen or heard from her in years. I hope she is fine.
Personally, I have a moral issues with removing a slave’s retirement from a sound retirement plan that is well managed by professionals. I may require her to change plans if there is good reason but not cash it out. Hell I had a retirement plan for myself. she may need it and in fact you and her may need it together when you get older. So why fuck with it unless it is a dyer emergency (whatever that is). To me that would be the same as demanding that she cancel health insurance so you would have more cash today.
Because she turns her assets over to you does not relieve you of moral responsibility to plan for the future for both of you. If fact it puts the responsibility squarely on a master’s shoulders to insure a slave is protected financially when she is elderly. If B.E.S.T. slave training is about a long-term relationship then a master must act out his part of the commitment and make retirement planning one of this goals.
If he wishes to cash out her retirement or invest it into a plan he devise then that is a HUGE RED FLAG. If he is expecting you to be his slave long-term then why is he not planning and protecting your retirement income. Hell he can use it when you are both old and it comes to you each month. Ok OK you see this is an issue with me LOL
An ethical Master,.… delicious,.…
Hi All
This is my first post and I must say I am very interested in the topic. I live in a M/s relationship (25 years married to my master). I hand over my entire pay packet and he gives me an amount of money to spend. I can buy food for the house and essential items but anything else needs his approval. I am looked after, taken on holidays and generally have all my needs met. I cannot just go out shopping and buy clothes or spend money as I see fit. Sometimes I would like to just go shopping but then I think about ( or get reminded) of all the benefits of the life I lead and going shopping just doesn’t feel so important. If I want a new dress, Master has to come with me to approve it and in a way i feel very ‘looked after’ as he takes a very keen interest in everything i do. I would love to hear from others in M/s relationships as we mostly keep to ourselves.
Thank you gala — It is a topic you don’t often get in general b.d.s.m. lifestyle relationships or dom/sub relationship discussions. Usually they go berserk over the subject of giving all finances to your master. However it is a common subject in the Master/slave relationship. Because of that I wanted to discuss it. Again this group is different in it’s focus. We favor the master/slave relationship.
I think your dynamics are not that uncommon. It is not always the case, however some use different methods and I hope we hear from some. But no matter the style of control in a Master/slave relationship there is usually financial control of some type. I use it.
gala, i too am Married to My Master, for 15 years. Our relationship seems to run pretty Much the same as yours. i don’t work outside the home, we still have young children. He gives Me an amount to spend on groceries and preapproved things for the kids, anything else i have to ask for. When He sees we have the Money and he decidesi need new clothes or something he will take Me and watch Me try things on, picking out what he likes. i am his in every sense of the word, everything i am, have, will be, is his, wouldn’t like it any other way. Love to hear others stories and know that there are others that live like we do.
i find this topic fantastic because i’m dealing with the issue in my life right now. i ran from it for a long time. Surrender of my property is not easy but necessary in order for me to be free to be myself. i need it and i’ve agreed to do so. i feel calm and i always knew i needed to surrender my property in order to go all the way and never turn back. It was not an issue of trusting my Master because i did and do. It was an issue of letting go of control.
Hi Nalu, Cuffsmaster, Milf Cow
Nalu — when i read how your Master picks your new clothes I smiled. I have spent many a Saturday morning with my Master standing outside the dressing room of our local dress shop approving or otherwise, the clothes I am trying on. The woman who works there thinks I have a very attentive husband. She will often comment on how interested my husband is in what I wear and thinks we have a wonderful relationship.
And I guess that is the point. We spend a great deal of our free time together and he says there is nothing better than having his slave by his side. People who I work with think I have a lovely marriage as we are always going somewhere together. For instance he takes me to town about every two months to stay in one of the big hotels for the night and have dinner out. We have some nice play sessions and generally spend time together. Women at work think i have this fantastic romantic husband that takes me to the opera ect.…. The truth is i have a fantastic Master that treats me to a great life because i submit to him on every level.
Not that i would say anything about my lifestyle at work but sometimes i would love to explain how i have such a healthy strong relationship. I know my place in his life and live according to his rules.
it is nice to actually write about this stuff as so often i see blogs about “how my Master treats me like crap” or recently on a group site i read a entire rant about new Doms and who do they think they are? I really get sick of the rants and back stabbing. We live a quiet life (only going to one BDSM club event a month) and apart from some shibari Master does in public — we basically keep to ourselves.
I am not the type of person to be in the face of others about our lifestyle and find it really hard to communicate with others when there is constant moaning about aspects of the M/s commitment. As my Masters says — you are either in it or not. And you are the only one who can decide on that level of commitment. It is a big step to take but I could never live any other way.
gaia
Many consensual slave contracts require a slave to surrender all worldly possessions that include her assets, finances, and material possessions into the care and possession of her Master. This is part of a Master taking the entire possession of his slave as His property, claiming her as his for a long-term relationship based upon him owning her. He takes control of all of her and all she has.
A slave gives control of her accumulated past, present and future to her Master. She accepts that after becoming a slave she will accept her master’s decisions in managing the assets and possessions. she gives up control. In many cases the actual title or even deeds to assets are passed to her master beyond just the slave contract agreement therefore giving force of law to the agreement.
The Master agrees to accept his slave body, property and possessions and care for her to the best of my ability and to the betterment of the family.
Being a slave is more than fantasy in a Master/slave relationship. It involves the daily practice of slavery to a Master. In a real-life 24/7/365 Master/slave relationship actual surrender of power by a slave is required and practiced. A slave’s possessions are not excluded from her surrender.
yes, this is something i will enjoy my Master dressing me.. blushing
but giving up my possessions will be hard, as when i was married we still had our own checking accounts, etc
but i want the real M/s relationship… its what i seek, will i find it, well thats another story
i am glad i found this site, gives me hope, reading of ones that are lucky enough to live it…
wishing you all the best… and thank you all for sharing.…
Barb I guess you need to find your level of comfort. I work in a well paid job and hand my entire earnings over to my Master. He in return provides for all my needs. I have to ask permission to make personal purchases and he decides where the money goes. It is not a issue as we are in a long term relationship. I think if i had just met someone it would be a very different situation. A real M/s take years to grow and develop to full bloom and then I think there is always room to learn.
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I wondered about writing that last comment about deep level of submission. But there is no other way to put it. I leave work drop my covering for the vanilla world and go home to a place that is secure and loving. A home controlled by my Master where I am safe, protected and nurtured. Yes I do run around and make his coffee and give him whatever he wants but that is only the surface stuff. The core is the feelings I have have for him and the need that I have to serve him on every level. And for him to interact with me as a Master at all times. Not everyone can live as a slave as not everyone has the ability to truly be a Master. To be a Master is to know yourself and your charge ( slave) completely.
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