Using Craigslist to find a master.

Below is a con­ver­sa­tion on mes­sen­ger that is girl gave me per­mis­sion to pub­lish to help oth­ers.      The over­whelm­ing need to be owned  is com­mon and I want to address it.  The need for slav­ery is strong and you must use care.  DON’T let the need over­power com­mon sense when it comes to find­ing a long-term partner

I changed her name and copied a crude mes­sen­ger con­ver­sa­tion —  so don’t look at the way we writ­ing pri­vate mes­sages but instead look at the soul of the conversation.

The con­ver­sa­tions starts below:

she said:

i recently started seri­ously research­ing and read­ing every­thing i can find and have had sev­eral “ah-ha” moments.

then she said later on in the conversation:

thank you, Sir again for your quick response. how do i know which mas­ter to choose? i put an ad on craigslist and received sev­eral replies. nar­rowed a list of 20 – 30 down to 4 ~ thru email­ing and instant mes­sag­ing. recently meet with one Mas­ter and ended up hav­ing a ses­sion with him where he tpld me i was now his slave in train­ing. my ques­tion is ~ am i allowed to see more than one Mas­ter? do i choose or do they?

I said:

I think cragslist is not a wise option and dangerous

No he does not claim you as his slave — you have to GIVE your slav­ery and up and until you GIVE it you can see others.

You make a deci­sion to give your slav­ery. no one can do that for you.

you are just hear­ing bull­shit lol

you make the deci­sion to give your all. No one makes that for you.

I can’t even imag­ine all the nuts you must have com up with on craigslist.

so you can’t be forced into con­sen­sual slav­ery . Yes once you give up your free­doms you are owned as a slave but you give them up. He does not take them by answer­ing a craigslist ad and play­ing with you. A fuck­ing play ses­sion has lit­tle to do with train­ing you as a slave girl

she said:

craigslist for the most part is a joke. so know­ing that, it makes it eas­ier to weed out the bull­shiters. like i said ~ i have it nar­rowed down to 3. the first one ~ the one i met already ~ first of all he said we would meet at first and dis­cuss things and to see if we clicked. we meet at mcdonald’s and he says lets go for a drive and talk. i prob­a­bly shouldn’t but i said ok. of course we end up at ”his office” where he tells me to strip, turn around, bend over and he inspects every inch of me. then he takes me in another room hogties me and ”gives me a taste of what i can expect being a slave”, for the next 2 hours. i was no longer to call him Sir now call him Mas­ter. the other 2 i have not met with.
can i con­nect with peo­ple through your web­site? i mean if i hook up with the wrong one ~ this could go hor­ri­bly wrong!! but it some­thing i feel i must do. it’s beyond my con­trol at this point, i know this is my des­tiny …
thank you, Sir for listening.

I said:

you are mov­ing to fast — yes you can con­nect — it is bet­ter to go slow —
you are bound to fuck up if you move so blindly forward.

I know you have found your des­tiny so don’t fuck it up by tak­ing the first thing that claims to be a dom. you will seri­ously regret it and maybe set you back for years

use com­mon sense

she said:

i feel like i’m try­ing to make up for lost time. like it took me to long to get to this point. i already know i am sub­mis­sive ~ that’s me ~ but how do i know if i am meant to be a slave? don’t i need to actu­ally do it to know for sure?

I said:

I know you want it NOW because you have found what will make you happy — believe me I have seen sev­eral get their dreams destroyed or dam­ages or delayed by doing what you are doing RIGHT NOW

you are smart and use com­mons sense — you can do this right

and yes you get to make the deci­sion on who you sur­ren­der too

this is not a game — it is real — and there are lots of freaks out there

most likely that is what you find on creigslist and you know it

she said:

so, from when we first start talk­ing (online) and i am able to ask ques­tions ~ after he tells me what he expects from me and what i can expect from him ~ how long do i wait until we meet? and hon­estly ~ how can i really know he isn’t lying? i mean since i don’t have any real expe­ri­ence at this ~ how do i avoid get­ting into a sit­u­a­tion i can’t get out of. i know there is a fine line between Dom/Master and some­one who just wants to tie me up and beat my ass ~ how the hell do i tell the dif­fer­ence? i’m not sure com­mon sence applies here ~ as i have noth­ing to com­pare to. i mean i can’t say this feels dif­fer­ent than the last time or the last guy, there isn’t any last time or guy to com­pare to.
one of my poten­tial Mas­ters, i believe is pos­si­bly doing things right. he is giv­ing me home­work ~ he some­how knew i needed to get some­things of my chest ~ so he gave me an assign­ment to write an essay about my past rela­tion­ships and how i felt. i sent him a page a day for 5 days (com­pleted on fri) now next assign­ment write about my child­hood. he is in no hurry and seems to be try­ing to under­stand what makes me me… or is he??
i am more con­fused than ever i really thought the hard part (real­iz­ing this is what i want) was over. and now i must say ~ i am a lit­tle more scared (which is prob­a­bly a good thing)
thank you, Sir for open­ning my eyes and slow­ing me down

I said:

you are able to ask any­thing you want — hell even after you are a slave you are allowed to ask ques­tions if you don’t under­stand an order.

sim­ply because he tells you what he expects does not mean the bells go off in you and he is who you want to own you. you have a right to give your­self to who you wish — THEN you are owned. You can’t be forced into slav­ery. BUT once in you are in and only he can let you out – SO you have to be sure

you don’t just  (jump) in head first with the first guy that dis­plays a whip – strips you naked or gives you an order. Hell you are easy prey for the vul­tures and sickos out there. you have to use (good)  judgement

Yes it is hard – that is why you’d be fool­ish to even con­sider giv­ing your­self as a slave after such a short meet­ing. Think about it. And what does that say for him. Red flags should be going off in your mind left and right. Again use com­mon sense. you are try­ing to enter a seri­ous long-term rela­tion­ship. Sim­ply because it is a master/slave rela­tion­ship is no rea­son to leave you com­mon sense behind you. you know this is stu­pid on your part.   Use good judgement.

you don’t become a slave in 5 min­utes after some fool strips your cloths off and inspects your ass and cunt. you know better.

you want it ”yes­ter­day” instead of doing it right. you’re set­ting your­self up for a huge fail­ure and it will hap­pen if you pro­ceed along this course.

ok so you are con­fused — so what — it is bet­ter to be con­fused than make a huge fuck­ing mis­take that gets you harmed. Hell he is on good behav­ior now lol you don’t even know what he is like. I do know he is des­per­ate or he would not have tried to claim you like that. That is fool­ish on both of your parts. I am sure he would dis­ap­prove of me telling you this or you con­tact­ing any­one with expe­ri­ence with the lifestyle because you would be told you’re mak­ing a mis­take. THINK ABOUT IT !!!!!

you know this has not started log­i­cally or you would not be ask­ing all these ques­tions. you feel it and see the red flags. Pay atten­tion to your mind –

you read about slav­ery you feel the need for it. it over­whelms you and you want it all yes­ter­day. you are set­ting your­self up for a huge fail­ure and dis­ap­point­ment. The changes of this being right is damn slim and you know it.

she said:

ok, Sir ~ please enlighten me, how do you as a Mas­ter pro­ceed when you find a poten­tial submissive/slave? that way i may have some­thing to go by in comparison.
and you are very much cor­rect ~ get­ting into that sit­u­a­tion was fool­ish and could have gone very wrong!!!

I said:

num­ber one – –I am pleased you see how it could have gone wrong and in fact did because now you have no clue and you are more reserved.

I take time to know – com­mu­ni­cate – com­mu­ni­cate com­mu­ni­cate –
also you can do lit­tle things to start

she said:

i have put the brakes on this (THANKS TO YOU) in order to assure i am doing right. you may have just saved me from a great deal of unnec­es­sary bull­shit!! thank you

I said:

well there was a part deep in you that was try­ing to save you from your­self. I am glad the voice was loud enough to make you reach out to me.

you will not regret tak­ing your time. Look becom­ing a slave is hard even with the R I G H T mas­ter. you are seek­ing slav­ery first — not a rela­tion­ship with a Man that can be your master

I then asked her: If I could post this conversation

she said:

yes, Sir please post all or part of our conversation.
if i hadn’t reached out to you ~ i can only imag­ine what could have happened.
i was fucked around in the vanilla world ~ i don’t want the same to hap­pen here
then where would i go? i would be left incom­plete and stuck.
yes, Sir you have my permission

END con­ver­sa­tion

I asked to post this con­ver­sa­tion because it comes up sev­eral times a year on my web­site and wanted to put it out for thought.

Many of us find slave’s on-line.   There is no easy way.  How­ever an hon­est under­stand of the lifestyle is nec­es­sary.  A sub­mis­sive seek­ing a mas­ter has a right to choose she sub­mits to.    It is unlike that one short meet­ing and a trip to the office for a cunt exam­i­na­tion is enough.    I found a slave online but there is a com­mon sense process of devel­op­ing this relationship.

This guy may be per­fect for her but because she was think­ing that she has no option but to accept him as her mas­ter is not a pos­tive way to start and in my opin­ion is a huge red flag lead­ing to trou­ble.   I have seen men that prey on those that know lit­tle about the lifestyle and don’t take proper steps.   I have been involved in some court cases involv­ing abuse or worse that started off with lack of plan­ning or will­ing­ness to see red flags.   Some­day I may write an arti­cle on the fraud and vio­lence I have wit­nessed. Three cases ended up with the sub­mis­sive hav­ing to tes­tify in open court.

In addi­tion never meet some­one you don’t know with­out mak­ing safe calls to a friend.  There is lots of infor­ma­tion about safe calls on-line and almost any­one  in the lifestyle will help you.   Know the full iden­tity of the per­son you are meet­ing and make sure oth­ers know as well.

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