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Newbie to BDSM looking for advice. (23 posts)

  • Profile picture of Katie Katie said 10 months ago:

    BDSM has peaked my interest and I’m curious to find out how to start actually learning apart from a lot of the stuff found on the internet. Please don’t shoot me down. I’d like some real information.

  • Profile picture of Deleted User said 10 months ago:

    Welcome! We are happy that you have come here to find valuable information regarding the lifestyle. You can rest assured that the environment and people on here will not shoot you down for any questions you may have.:)

  • Profile picture of Black Black said 9 months, 3 weeks ago:

    The only stupid question is the one you dont ask .

  • Profile picture of Brian Brian said 9 months ago:

    Yes indeed the only stupid questions are the ones not asked!

  • Profile picture of newfoundMaster newfoundMaster said 9 months ago:

    Good for you Katie. I was in the same boat when I started. For what it’s worth, my main three influences (beyond my slave’s abilities and my desires) are this site and the Code d’Odalisque. I have found several interesting discussions of FetLife as well, but not nearly as much or as well thought out as this site. Also, look for blogs to follow. I actually follow a slave support site’s blog just for the different perspective on the dynamic. I think the most important thing is to look with an open mind at a lot of different resources – especially books and web sites – to get an initial idea of what practices are out there and how they are discussed. Then examine what you actually find so interesting about it. It was only after much reflection that I found out I was very interested in power exchange within a M/s relationship but am not into inflicting pain as in ‘traditional’ S/M. That gave me a direction to start looking into in earnest.

    The book ‘Screw the Roses, Give Me the Thorns” is a good general survey of BDSM topics, though the copy I found is pretty old (the 70′s pictures were kind of a turn off, haha!).

  • Profile picture of Bicouple Bicouple said 8 months, 4 weeks ago:

    We have just entered the life style of BDMS. I am stuggling on keeping my slave under cotroll and the punishments I afflick on her dont seem to be helping, I giver her spankings, and have her fucker herself with a dildo and refuse her to orgasam, I need some advise on other punishments I can administer to help my slave to better.

  • Profile picture of Cuffsmaster Cuffsmaster said 8 months, 4 weeks ago:

    BiCouple – first I think you need to read the Theory then the Practice sections of this website related to slave training. IT is not about sexual play or punishment.. It is about ownership.

    After you read and Theory and practice sections then if you are still interested in our type of training we will try to help. Right now you need to do some basic study to understand or realize this group is not about scene play.

    This post is not intended to put you down but to get you on the right track. You may not want a Master/slave relationship or she may not want it. This is consensual slavery and you can’t really beat her into accepting it.

    This goal of B.E.S.T. is to discuss slave training with those that have read The B.E.S.T. slave training Guide and have a clue of what it is about. It’s not about discussing a Dom/sub lifestyle or meeting for scene play only.

    So start by reading, Different ways to play is not what we are about and if you truly are interested in a Master/slave relationship it is not your answer as well.

  • Profile picture of Cuffsmaster Cuffsmaster said 8 months, 4 weeks ago:

    BiCouple — let me add Of course there is nothing wrong with learning new ways to punish a slave or to play with a slave. However, Generally speaking, punishment is for the correction of bad behavior of a slave girl that wants to serve, obey and please. It is important in slave training but B.E.S.T. covers behavior, emotions, self-image & thoughts. It takes far more than punishment or sex to make a slave.

    The actual job of slave training may be a lot harder than you imagine it to be. It takes lots more than owning a good dildo, paddle or whip. The proper training of a slave is time consuming. Bondage, spanking, punishment and such are only a small part of the time and energy spent on training.

    Right now, if you are truly interested in slave training, you need to focus on having a clear understanding of what it means to be a Master and how to train. IF (and it is a big IF) you & her actually want a Master/slave relationship then you will have to learn how to be a Master first. You can read or find a local mentor or whatever but focus on yourself first.

    You call her a slave. Right now, for you, that is a play term and she is not actually a slave as defined in B.E.S.T. slave training. She is just a bottom and you are Toping. This site will not alter from the limits of B.E.S.T or we will become confused and just another general BDSM site . This is actually a specialized site focusing on real consensual slave training.

    slave training and owning a slave is not strictly about BDSM scene play.

    Most of us love scene play. In fact we may crave it. BUT it is not necessary in the actual training of a slave girl.

    Only you and her know if you really want a 24/7/365 Master/slave relationship and if you are willing to spend the time learning it. I can’t answer that.

  • Profile picture of Bicouple Bicouple said 8 months, 4 weeks ago:

    I have been reading up on master slave training, Im trying to become a good master, the sight here is vary informational and has helped me. I was looking for helpful things to make me a better master. we both want to fully engulf ourself into this lifestyle.

  • Profile picture of Cuffsmaster Cuffsmaster said 8 months, 4 weeks ago:

    Your power as a master is derived from your mental domination in my opinion. It is a skill that you practice and learn. To some degree, it varies from slave to slave in how to accomplish it.

    In many cases a slave will push you and challenge you just to see if you have the will and power to dominate her. Not all do but some do. Not saying this is the case here because it’s hard to judge from a distance. More than one master has been tested to see if he has got what it takes to dominate lol. Often before letting go and letting you control she needed to feel you can actually do it.

    Set goals, obtainable goals based upon what you want the final results to be. Then hold her to the goals.

    Find out why she is challenging you and resisting. Read the section of Resistance and Reactance and see if anything applies. I bet it does. More tools are not the answer but are of course fun.

    It sounds like resistance to training which is not necessarily overcome by punishment. Don’t back down to her resistance but find a proper way to handle it. Read the Resistance and Reactance page.

    http://bestslavetraining.com/slave-training-manual/theory-slave-training/resistance-slave-training-reactance/

  • Profile picture of Cuffsmaster Cuffsmaster said 8 months, 4 weeks ago:

    Bi couple – There is a reason she is resisting. Find it.

  • Profile picture of KatiHWB KatiHWB said 8 months, 4 weeks ago:

    Bi couple, i have to agree with Cuffsmaster on this …. if your slave is resisting your Mastery of her, there HAS to be a reason. Communication is the key to a good M/s relationship. Talk to her, tell her what You expect from her, but also ask her what HER expectations are too. Is she has different ideas as to what she wants from the relationship, it is better to find out now, than to force Your will onto her and have her unhappy and upset as a result. Remember …. a happy slave is a good slave (and makes for a happy Master in the long run).
    Kati

  • Profile picture of newfoundMaster newfoundMaster said 8 months, 3 weeks ago:

    Not to sound like a broken record, Bicouple, but I agree with Cuffsmaster and KatiHWHB. It’s a Master’s responsibility, IMHO, to help his slave attain the freedom of servitude she craves. There are any number of reasons why she may be having difficulty doing so – it might be natural for her but it rarely comes naturally. So much of society and experience have taught her to oppose and surpress her nature.

    First, as has been said, be sure this life is what you both want. There’s no harm in wanting something else – that’s how we all got here in the first place. A negotiation list and slave contract will help clarify that, with honest discussion, and verify that fact in committing to the power exchange. A permanent symbol, in the form of a public and/or private collar, is a helpful reminder for both (and, I admit, I love to see my slave in her collar!). My slave craves structure, so I put together a protocol explaining the basic rules I expect her to live her new life by. This may help as well, though I understand it’s not for everyone.

    The next step, for me, is really a never-ending series of cycles. Examine her behavior, emotions, self-image and thoughts (B.E.S.T) for internal impediments to that servitude you have both committed to. At the same time, set up some initial internalization-reinforcing rules or rituals. Those may help in the short-term with her accepting her new place in life, getting past the more superficial internal impediments and finding a venue for the two of you to express your new found relationship. Find the erotic the power exchange brings to your life outside of play, and the intimate it bring within your play.

    As you are enjoying and exploring that it is the Master’s responsibility to examine her internal impediments. You should both go through a negotiation list. Look at the differences between hers and yours and think about what you need to help her get past in order to bring her attitudes closer to your desires. That is where she will be happiest as a slave, which will in turn make you happier.

    The cyclical nature, for me, is in identifying a few of those impediments, defining ways to correct her behavior, emotions, self-image and/or thoughts to get past those and then enacting those. Once you see satisfactory progress, review and repeat. That, in my ‘practice’ or style, is the heart of slave training. A slave, by definition, desires to please her Master and is thankful for his attention. It’s your job as a Master to help her fully realize that potential by training her past her internalized issues and into more fully being connected to her desire to serve, pleasure and obey.

  • Profile picture of Cuffsmaster Cuffsmaster said 8 months, 3 weeks ago:

    newfoundMaster – Well said. Being a Master is not just laying back and being served or bdsm play. Generally, It takes considerable thought and work to actually train a slave girl.

    A slave trainee wants your leadership, wisdom, experience and coaching to not only take her into slavery but to manage her as a slave girl after basic training.

    Slave training is teaching her how you wish her to behave but in addition it is guiding her though resistance & reactance to the loss of freedoms. In addition you train her to rely on your WILL not hers. Giving you her choices in life is not easy. It is hard for many.

    How you overcome her resistance & reactance in the art of slave training. It’s individualized based upon your slave and her resistance caused by her life experiences. There is no “to do list” fit to train all slaves. You evaluate each slave and set training for her.

    Training/coaching is a change in thinking and behavior. There is usually resistance on some level. You can figure out what to do once you identify it.

  • Profile picture of gaia gaia said 8 months, 3 weeks ago:

    The best training is the training that the slave is not even aware of. The conditioning that occurs and the changes in behaviour that become second nature to the slave. It is only after time has passed and the slave realises or it is pointed out to her that the training becomes evident. Not everything can be done on such a subtle level but the things that are learnt on that subconscious level run deep.

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